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Even Thatcher had it tough at the start, I’m getting better every day so give me more time, demands Kemi Badenoch

Published on April 25, 2025 at 08:00 PM

KEMI BADENOCH has pleaded with her restless party to give her more time – likening her early days in the job to the “really, really tough”; start that was experienced by the Tories’ first female leader, Margaret Thatcher.

Six months into what is currently the hardest job in politics, the polls are grim — an average of , Labour on 24 and the Conservatives on just 21.

Portrait of Kemi Badenoch in a red suit.
Tory party leader Kemi Badenoch pleads for patience amid concerns over upcoming local election results
Portrait of Margaret Thatcher in a blue suit.
Badenoch points out Margaret Thatcher took a while to reach her stride as Tory leader
Family photo of Kemi Badenoch as a child with her siblings and mother.
Kemi aged six, second left, with brother Fola, left, sister Lola and mum Feyi

And next week’s will be especially gruelling, with the Tories set to haemorrhage the council seats that were last won under ’s vaccine bounce.

But a defiant today reminds jittery MPs that even their heroine took a while to get into her stride before maturing into the formidable Iron Lady.

Speaking to The Sun at the end of a week when she landed a solid blow on Sir over women’s rights, she said: “I’ve been reading a lot about Mrs Thatcher’s time in opposition.

“People remember her at her heyday. They don’t remember what it was like when she first started.

“I’ve been speaking to a lot of people who worked with her then, and they said it was really, really tough.

“And that’s what I’ve been expecting. That’s what’s happening.”;

She added: “It’s going to take some time to rebuild trust, but the party is unifying under my leadership.

“I am enjoying it, and every day I’m getting better.”;

‘PM couldn’t acknowledge he got something wrong’

That progress has been noticed — with even doubting MPs cheering her on last week as she took the fight to Labour, seizing on the ten days ago that the legal definition of a woman should be based on biological sex.

In the for backtracking on comments he made three years ago when he said sex was based on both biology and self-identification, and women could have a penis.

When asked if she thinks Sir Keir has a so-called “woman problem”; she replied without skipping a beat: “Yes,”; pointing to the way feminist MP was effectively driven out of the for .

She added: “I think you can learn a lot about Keir Starmer by the way that he’s treated Rosie Duffield.

“This was a woman who was constructively dismissed from that party for saying she believed in biological sex.

Now the has ruled what she’s been saying [is correct], he couldn’t even apologise, couldn’t even acknowledge that he got something wrong.

“And if you’ve got something wrong, you should be able to say, ‘Actually, we got this wrong’.”;

And the Tory leader challenged the Prime Minister to pick up the phone and call campaigners such as and campaign group , who brought the legal action, to make an apology.

Mrs Badenoch, who sat down to talk to me during a visit to a factory unit in Mansfield, , said her first five months as leader had been a “rollercoaster”;.

Kemi Badenoch and her husband Hamish after she was announced as the new leader of the UK's Conservative Party.
Kemi with Hamish, husband of 13 years, the day she became Tory leader

She is on the road as her carries out the domestic — juggling childcare and — having quit his job with a major bank so that he could work from home looking after an investment portfolio.

She added: “I always knew that it would be challenging. Lots of people said, ‘Don’t do this’.

But my worry was that there wouldn’t even be a in a few years if we just left it and just had a break.”;

She speaks of the challenge on the right from Reform, the battle against apathy for and a huge economic challenge with other countries and regions such as and the Middle East out-competing the UK as she strives to make the country “dynamic”;.

But despite all the tough talk, there is one immovable truth — is struggling to cut through.

Lagging behind both Labour and Reform, Tory MPs are starting to whisper about deals to “unite the Right”;.

Yet their leader insists that any electoral pact with Nigel Farage’s party is off the table, warning that voters are put off by backroom stitch-ups for the sake of power.

Continual questions about a deal are raised — even by her Shadow Justice Secretary this week.

They were ready for an election. They weren’t ready for government

Kemi on Labour

But she said: “Reform has said that it wants to destroy the .

“If someone says that they want to destroy you or destroy your family, you don’t rush in looking at how to do deals with them, you give them a wide berth.

“We need to make sure that we have a credible offer to the public. When we are talking about coalitions before an election, what the public hate is stitch-ups.

“They think, ‘These politicians are not interested in looking after us, they are just looking at how they get into power’.

“And that’s how things have gone wrong, just thinking about winning rather than what you are going to do to deliver afterwards.

“That’s what’s happened to Labour. They were ready for an election. They weren’t ready for government.”;

Group photo of a campaign team and supporters.
Mrs Badenoch cradles her new-born daughter at her 2019 election poll count
Kemi Badenoch, Conservative Party leader, speaking during Prime Minister's Questions in the House of Commons.
Badenoch grilling Sir Keir at Prime Minister’s Questions in the Commons this week

But Mrs Badenoch also finds time to aim fire at the ahead of a summit next month.

Sir Keir has faced criticism from his opponent over his “”; to allowing free movement of under-30s between Britain and the EU under plans for a youth mobility scheme.

She is also furious about giving away even fishing rights to the bloc after the hard-fought victory.

Mrs Badenoch said: “Everything I’ve seen Labour negotiate, whether it’s the or this [UK vaccine plant] deal that the previous Conservative government had negotiated, they just make a mess of everything.

“They get the unions in, unions advise them on what to do.

“So I worry very much about about what they are going to do on fishing.

“That would be terrible for a lot of places like , and .

“You look at how so much was fought for, for places like Grimsby, and it will be for nothing if Keir Starmer backslides on that.”;

She also has Energy Secretary in her sights over the carbon emissions by 2050, and vowed to press ahead with new North Sea oil and gas drilling licences and opening the door to in the future.

When asked if the Government should ditch their eco plans, she said: “Yes, they should. But I don’t think they will because they don’t understand that government doesn’t create growth, does.

“They think they can generate growth from this agenda, even though the way they’re going, it will bankrupt the country.”;

She added that by not reversing a ban on oil and gas licences, ministers are making us “less independent”; when it comes to supply.

But as a mum, Mrs Badenoch has equally pressing things to deal with away from Westminster and her North West constituency — especially when it comes to policing her three youngsters aged between five and 12.

Everything I’ve seen Labour negotiate, whether it’s the Chagos Islands or this AstraZeneca [UK vaccine plant] deal that the previous Conservative government had negotiated, they just make a mess of everything

Kemi Badenoch

Our interview comes after campaigners criticised ’s new rules on online child safety as being too weak, insisting that parents need more help.

She said: “The family is the beginning of all of life and ordering in society.

“But it’s not that easy for parents. We need to make it easier for them. I am a very, very tech-savvy parent, and I’m constantly working hard to manage the way my children access the internet.

“None of them are on social media.

“I don’t give them smartphones to use to get on the internet.

“If they do want to, they have to use mine. It’s under supervision. But not every parent knows how to work the phones to create restrictions and things like that.

“So social media companies definitely need to do more.”;

Our time is up, as Mrs Badenoch needs to hit the road for more election campaigning. She could knock on a million doors and next week’s result would still be brutal.

But is she a quitter? In the words of her Tory hero: No, No, No.

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